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Philip Seymour Hoffman, dead at 46

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Philip Seymour Hoffman, dead at 46

Postby Huckleby » Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:27 pm

Heroin overdose. I'm in shock, such an incredible actor. I feel sad just like when Lennon died, they aren't my friends but they both made emotional connections thru their performances.
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Re: Philip Seymour Hoffman, dead at 46

Postby bdog » Sun Feb 02, 2014 4:40 pm

Shit. I really enjoyed his work.
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Re: Philip Seymour Hoffman, dead at 46

Postby manoletters » Sun Feb 02, 2014 5:19 pm

He was especially superlative as Truman Capote in "Capote." RIP.
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Re: Philip Seymour Hoffman, dead at 46

Postby Huckleby » Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:05 am

I recently saw him in "Doubt" with Meryl Streep. Great.

I think he was the best actor of his generation.

I've been reading about and listening to Charlie Parker lately. He was taking heroin at 15, until he died at 35. He spent an enormous portion of his lifetime looking for drugs.
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Re: Philip Seymour Hoffman, dead at 46

Postby Ned Flanders » Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:14 am

Awesomely creepy in Boogie Nights. RIP.
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Re: Philip Seymour Hoffman, dead at 46

Postby Stebben84 » Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:19 pm

His role in Happiness was my favorite. Damn what a loss.
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Re: Philip Seymour Hoffman, dead at 46

Postby david cohen » Mon Feb 03, 2014 3:28 pm

Latest report says they found FIFTY bags of heroin in his apartment.He wasn't your average junkie, he was a rich man obsessed with "the feeling". So sad, he was just like every talented artist who OD'd before him...when will they ever learn?
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Re: Philip Seymour Hoffman, dead at 46

Postby gozer » Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:19 am

looks like 70 bags of h, including 44 spiced with fent, a mixture known as goodfellas or ace of spades.

it appears he was attempting a pharmacologically-assisted detox with clonidine, with methocarbamol and atarax for symptoms and suboxone for if it got to be too much. then it looks like he got the smack with the fent in it. how awful.
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Re: Philip Seymour Hoffman, dead at 46

Postby Huckleby » Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:45 am

david cohen wrote:He wasn't your average junkie, he was a rich man obsessed with "the feeling". So sad, he was just like every talented artist who OD'd before him...when will they ever learn?


Baloney. Guy had a drug problem going back 20+ years. Rich or poor makes no difference, an addict is an addict. Exploring, pursuing might very well be why people start drug use. It's not a question of learning, or being wise enough to make smart choices, addiction goes way deeper than that.

Been reading about Charlie Parker and have addiction on the brain. Many of us have addictions.People who compulsively overeat are accutely aware of the pain it is causing themselves. Charlie Parker knew the heroin was hurting his music, and everything else in his life. He went back to the dope even after two long and painful sanitorium stays temporarily brought him good health.

BTW, I think some drug use expands creativity, it's not all downside. But addiction is all pain.
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Re: Philip Seymour Hoffman, dead at 46

Postby other i » Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:18 am

We're on day three and it's
    Piecing together the actor's last day
    The Hoffman we didn't know
    Drugs drugs and more drugs (as though we never heard about them before.)
    A list of "stars who died during production" (lists are big these days.)
    Experts weigh in on relapse
    Most Awesome (gack!) roles
    Feds See Soaring Heroin Addiction...
    Teh 60 Minute Interview
    Autopsy Results Expected
    Broadway to dim lights
    Hoffman as an Oscar winner
and on and on and on...

It's like a news site producer's bonanza. (Or maybe it's just robots that do this...)
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Re: Philip Seymour Hoffman, dead at 46

Postby david cohen » Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:11 pm

The sad fact is that dying is the least of a junky's worries. #1 is running out and getting dope sick. I've lost several people I dearly love to heroin. This cat could have afforded to have Narcan...he could have afforded to have his own MD there to supervise his cravings....and yet he didn't even make it past the plunger. I have 2 old, dear friends who have kicked the stuff. One did it on the floor of a jail cell, the other just said No Mas and did it in a hospital. My point is that it's sad that, in this day and age, someone with the money to be safely addicted can't make that choice.
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Re: Philip Seymour Hoffman, dead at 46

Postby Huckleby » Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:35 pm

david cohen wrote:This cat could have afforded to have Narcan...he could have afforded to have his own MD there to supervise his cravings....in this day and age, someone with the money to be safely addicted can't make that choice.


I disagree with your view of addiction. People frequently return to addiction even after they are cured. In PSH's case, he may have been clean for a decade or two.

People relapse or remain addicted for very deep reasons beyond stupidity, or lack of resources. A rich person has much easier time making transition, point taken, but the most important challenges of addiction are same for rich or poor.
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Re: Philip Seymour Hoffman, dead at 46

Postby david cohen » Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:39 pm

I think we can all agree that heroin addiction, in particular, has no rhyme or reason. It only has one ending for, as you point out, folks can get clean for a very long time but end up chasing the dragon again eventually. Very few manage to keep the beast at bay forever.
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Re: Philip Seymour Hoffman, dead at 46

Postby Huckleby » Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:55 pm

I don't think heroin addiction is different from food addiction, as regards the difficulty of fighting the addiction. In many ways heroin is easier.
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Re: Philip Seymour Hoffman, dead at 46

Postby fennel » Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:02 pm

That's a perfect tag line for Hate Radio, by the way: "They're not hungry, they've fallen prey to food addiction."
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