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Please limit discussion in this area to local and state politics.
by Ed Breakfast » Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:15 pm
Yesterday's Joint Committee on Energy and Utilities public hearing will run on the Madison City Channel at the following times:
Thursday, March 29 @ 8:30PM
Saturday, April 7 @ 8:00PM
Sunday, April 8 @ 10:00PM
Friday, April 13 @ 8:00PM
The RealMedia file should be up at mcc12.tv by the weekend. (It's nine hours long so the encoding is gonna take a while.)
This proposed legislation (AB207, SB107) will also be the topic of the April 11th episode of Access: City Hall. The episode will feature UW Professor Barry Orton and, presumably, a proponent of the bills. The show runs live on MCC12 at 7PM. Your calls are welcome at 261-9114.
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by pulsewidth modulation » Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:19 pm
JMH wrote:you're still sitting in front of a monitor like the rest of us.
You know how you come off? Like the clueless consumer that you are. I am better than you.
There is one big difference between our monitors pal... Mine is producing coin, it doesn't just consume it.
Fuck you too
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by jammybastard » Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:23 pm
pulsewidth modulation wrote: There is one big difference between our monitors pal... Mine is producing coin, it doesn't just consume it.
mine's making more than yours!
Nah! Nah!
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by DMeister » Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:26 pm
Is that a roll of quarters in your pocket?
Or are you just happy to see me?
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by JMH » Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:48 pm
pulsewidth modulation wrote:There is one big difference between our monitors pal... Mine is producing coin, it doesn't just consume it.
Fuck you too
Your monitor produces coins? What is it, one of those blocks from Mario you can slam your head into for a little gold? Keep going, maybe you'll get a 1-Up.
<3
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by tibor » Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:01 pm
pulsewidth modulation wrote:JMH wrote:you're still sitting in front of a monitor like the rest of us.
You know how you come off? Like the clueless consumer that you are. I am better than you. There is one big difference between our monitors pal... Mine is producing coin, it doesn't just consume it. Fuck you too
Shouldn't you be crediting Sheppy for so blatantly ripping off his shtick? Oh that's right, the difference is you really believe it.
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by Michael Patrick » Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:19 pm
pulsewidth modulation wrote:Michael Patrick wrote:Man, you are really smart. Way to show them.
Of course, it means they only have to wait 6 months to raise your rates, rather than 12. But, boy howdy, you showed them...
I know I am smart, thanks for noticing.
Silly me, I should have known you were too fucking stupid to comprehend the implied sarcasm tags. Here, let me spell it out for you....
[sarcasm]Man, you are really smart.[/sarcasm]
Your shtick is really getting old...
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by TAsunder » Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:27 am
Sorry pulse, you've gone off the deep end here. First off, you do not get to negotiate terms of any contract with any major company that provides telephone, internet, or television. Secondly, you do not even really get to read the contract or agree to specific terms with charter. You do with DTV and Dish, I guess. Third, you are totally missing the point about extended cable outages. No one is saying they happen now, although we did have a 6 hour one not 2 months ago. The problem is, charter and others would have no incentive to "hurry and fix" an outage should one happen. Cable got cut saturday night? Who cares, deal with it on monday, you aren't losing any money, after all. Right now they are extremely motivated to fix an outage within 4 hours.
That's nice that you use dish or Dtv, but they are both atrocious for HD content and are not available to everyone as solutions. Though it is illegal for them to disallow me to use one, there is no reasonable place for me to place a dish at my apartment because the southern sky is obstructed no matter what in any spot that wouldn't require drilling. Anyway, FIOS would be optimal for HD content, but satellite is the worst possible solution. Satellite providers compress the crap out of HD and the PQ suffers.
I'm all for competition for charter because I consider them the most incompetent company on the planet of that size. I'd prefer comcast even despite their bandwidth banning practices.
Way to admit to illegally downloading content online. You forgot to mention that you don't get it in 720p or 1080i with full dolby digital surround sound, or that most consumers aren't going to be willing to use illegal means to watch television. Or maybe you are really ridiculous and just watch it off the station's web sites in microscopic resolution 4 days after it aired and just don't bother with the variuos shows that don't even make it there. You tell me... either way you are not making much of an impression.
We don't need a cable competition bill to get FIOS. FIOS has nothing to do with cable companies, with the exception of locals possibly having to be purchased from charter which has rights to them. But they are legally required to sell them already. FIOS is already in markets with cable monopolies. It is a telephone related service, not a cable one. And Verizon is the main vendor of FIOS right now, not AT&T.
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by pulsewidth modulation » Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:53 am
TAsunder wrote:Way to admit to illegally downloading content online.
Where did I say this? Quote me. Who do you think you are speaking for me?
I shouldn't have to defend myself against the above out right lie, but this kind of crap is typical on the left.
I have never watched copyrighted content via the web that was not already there legally. I have never downloaded any copyrighted material either.
By the way, jammybastard has admitted to downloading copyrighted content via BitTorrent in the music section. Then he had the audacity to defend it as OK. So go wave your finger at him.
Where were the regulators when jammybastard was stealing? That's right, they were not there. Yet more proof of slow government regulatory incompetence.
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by Henry Vilas » Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:01 am
pulsewidth modulation wrote:Yet more proof of slow government regulatory incompetence.
This from a guy who wants no government regulation, who now complains of slow regulation. How disingenuous of you.
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by TAsunder » Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:03 am
Are you working for the press now? Because if you look only a few sentences down in the same paragraph, I said the other possibility was viewing the content from the network web sites, which is as far as I know the only other legal way to get your tv content online, unless you are talking about quasi-online services like Amazon Unbox. Selective quoting to make a point? Or just skipped the rest of that paragraph?
Interesting wording there. Seems like you are saying you watch TV shows online but not on the network's web sites, figuring it's ok since they are also on the web sites. But I might be reading too much into it. Why don't you just tell us your exact method that allowed you to spurn cable and "move to the net 7 years ago".
I don't recall that other thread you mention, sorry, and there's a difference between saying "I download music" and saying "I would negotiate my contract with charter. But I don't use charter. I used satellite. But now I go online for TV shows"
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by jammybastard » Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:10 am
TAsunder wrote:That's nice that you use dish or Dtv, but they are both atrocious for HD content and are not available to everyone as solutions.
HUH? According to who? I've got almost every HD channel Dish offers and it's fine. I'm not sure what you are expecting to see because there isn't that much HD content available worldwide, let alone in the US, right now. The fact that I get HDNet, Natl Geo HD, HBOHD, the Voom Network channels, is fine with me. Plenty of good things between a of those plus there's the OTA content from my locals as well. The content looks great and sounds great on my 1080i monitor. TAsunder wrote:Anyway, FIOS would be optimal for HD content, but satellite is the worst possible solution. Satellite providers compress the crap out of HD and the PQ suffers.
True, but that's changing as more satellites come online and compression formats change. TAsunder wrote:Way to admit to illegally downloading content online.
That's funny, and very quaint. TAsunder wrote: You forgot to mention that you don't get it in 720p or 1080i with full dolby digital surround sound, or that most consumers aren't going to be willing to use illegal means to watch television.
What? Of course you can get full HD w/ full surround. May take you a few days to get it, but it's out
there. I prefer H264 w/ surround. In fact I've got last night's episode of "Lost" waiting on my HD right now in that very format and I while it may not be a pristine HD picture, it still looks great.
As far as the "legality" issue, as you mentioned most of the networks offer the same programs for free via streaming or download. So I download a Xvid file of the same show instead of watch it off their website? Big deal. Am I stealing? Hardly because it's given away in the first place, and you'd never prove that I was stealing it in a court of use.
I guess anyone that uses a DVR is "stealing" as well, especially when they skip the commercials?
That's the same thing I'm doing after all?
What's the difference between downloading a Xvid of a show and recording it on my DVR?
None.
So either we are all theives or we are all innocent consumers.
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by pulsewidth modulation » Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:17 am
TAsunder wrote:Seems like you are saying you watch TV shows online but not on the network's web sites, figuring it's ok since they are also on the web sites. But I might be reading too much into it.
Why don't you come out and say it. You are trying to pin me as a thief. Without proof of course. Is this how you operate?
I have not watched any "TV shows" via the web, ever. Is that clear?
I don't need Hollywood's crap. There is simply to much superior content on the net by avant-garde independent artists trying to get noticed. Why even bother paying for an inferior outlet like cable or dish? Those outlets are still in the Paleolithic era of media distribution.
Later girls, I'm out. Have fun with your pathetic attempts at PD style innuendo.
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by lordofthecockrings » Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:24 am
pulsewidth modulation wrote: I've got last night's episode of "Lost" waiting on my HD right now.....
pulsewidth modulation wrote: I have not watched any "TV shows" via the web, ever. Is that clear?
About as clear as bullshit.
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by lukpac » Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:26 am
lordofthecockrings wrote:pulsewidth modulation wrote: I've got last night's episode of "Lost" waiting on my HD right now.....
pulsewidth modulation wrote: I have not watched any "TV shows" via the web, ever. Is that clear?
About as clear as bullshit.
Maybe PM just downloads shows but never *watches* them...
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