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Noise Pollution in the Urban Environment

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Noise Pollution in the Urban Environment

Postby SidSeven » Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:48 am

I live above Whiskey (River) Jacks Saloon.
My TEETH are vibrating from the sub-woofer-bass noise.
My apartment is virtually uninhabitable anywhere from 10% to 70%
for days at a time.

A restaurant owner at 505 State st. was denied a permit for a karaoke machine. Because '...we can't have loud music playing long into the night' even tho karaoke machines were invented in Japan for the purpose of making RESTAURANTS more economically viable as 'food/participation/entertainment' instead of piping music in or hiring a live act.

Restaurants typically close well before before bartime.

I'm a bit confused at the double standard applied here.

Whiskey Jacks is the most retarded obnoxious stupid concept of modern sound reproduction I have ever experienced.

Sub-Woofers are NOT another kind of bass speaker.
Cranking up the sub/bass on any sound system is really stupid.
Harmonic resonance distortion, playing machine-generated bass-heavy music is significantly antithetical to the desired bass-response.

Tantamount to hitting the pedal on a real bass drum, and never releasing it. Forever.

Sub sonic, low-level frequencies are proven to be detrimental to physical and psychological health.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?
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Re: Noise Pollution in the Urban Environment

Postby bdog » Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:59 am

You should move.
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Re: Noise Pollution in the Urban Environment

Postby Stebben84 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:32 am

SidSeven wrote:Anyone have any thoughts on this?


Talk to the tenant resource center and see if there is anything you can do to stop a bar from having loud bands.

Other than that, don't live above a bar...in Madison...on State Street.
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Re: Noise Pollution in the Urban Environment

Postby Henry Vilas » Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:45 am

Sounds like the complaints of those who move right next to an airport and then whine about loud jets.

Location, location, location.
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Re: Noise Pollution in the Urban Environment

Postby rabble » Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:54 am

You want to live above a State Street bar and not be bothered by noise and loud music.

Nope. Got no thoughts on that.

Well okay, I got one thought. Did it cross your mind to ask about it when you rented? Have you never ever even BEEN in an apartment above a bar after sunset?

I guess that was two thoughts.
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Re: Noise Pollution in the Urban Environment

Postby narcoleptish » Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:14 am

You saw these responses coming, right?

Seriously, if you can move, you should move. If you're in a lease you may be able to break it for this reason. A guy above a long-time student bar on State St has a long row to hoe in the fight you're picking and in the meantime, the squeaky wheel (you) is going to get the grease (more bass). Is it worth it?
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Re: Noise Pollution in the Urban Environment

Postby fennel » Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:22 am

The evildoers will work to bring noise to you no matter where you live. Now some metro buses have obnoxious beepers that run most of the time.
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Re: Noise Pollution in the Urban Environment

Postby TheBookPolice » Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:22 am

If your complaint is that you're living above a business that doesn't know how to use sound equipment, maybe you can find a piano teacher to live above.
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Re: Noise Pollution in the Urban Environment

Postby Galoot » Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:27 am

Ah, now we have an explanation for why SIdSeven spends all night digging up 5 year old TDPF threads to respond to.
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Re: Noise Pollution in the Urban Environment

Postby penquin » Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:28 am

Sounds a lot like the complaints from years ago of those who walked into a bar and then whined about the smoke from cigarettes.

We found a way to take care of that situation. (And it wasn't just "Go to a different bar") Perhaps the same solution could also be applied to this health hazard.
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Re: Noise Pollution in the Urban Environment

Postby gargantua » Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:41 am

penquin wrote:Sounds a lot like the complaints from years ago of those who walked into a bar and then whined about the smoke from cigarettes.

Actually, it doesn't. For just one thing, Sid lives in an apartment that is not INSIDE the public accomodation that a bar is.
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Re: Noise Pollution in the Urban Environment

Postby Henry Vilas » Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:52 am

Penquin must think that tens of thousands die every year from second-hand music.
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Re: Noise Pollution in the Urban Environment

Postby fennel » Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:54 am

Kenny G.
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Re: Noise Pollution in the Urban Environment

Postby penquin » Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:09 am

gargantua wrote:Actually, it doesn't. For just one thing, Sid lives in an apartment that is not INSIDE the public accomodation that a bar is.


It is somewhat different. With the smoking issue people were choosing to walk into the bar, tavern or private clubhouse. They decided to put themselves into whatever hazard was occurring inside. This ain't like that. Sid is simply trying to live at home, and this obnoxious pollution is wafting in through the walls. The health hazard is coming to him, and thus this is a far worse intrusion than that was.
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Re: Noise Pollution in the Urban Environment

Postby Henry Vilas » Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:29 am

Yes, lack of sleep can carry some health risks. But it is nothing like this.
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