[Ned Flanders]

Wall St. fat cat Jon "unsafe at any speed" Corzine, FOO, has gone down in Democrat Jersey as has Mr. Deeds in VA. Both were major league Obama projects and the losses will reflect badly on him.

Michael Bloomberg, D-NYC looks like he will serve another term.

[nevermore]

I'm celebrating the Christie victory by causing an accident by driving the wrong way down a one-way street. WOOO!!! GOP! Personal responsibility!!!

[nevermore]

Oh NOES!!! The Dick Army loses in NY-23!!! Fox News, Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, Club for Growth and The Teabaggers (who spent Millions while the GOP spent nearly a MILLION to back the candidate who got 5%) look like they're going to lose as the GOP Civil War leads to the first time a Democrat represents that district since the Actual Civil War!!!! One extra vote for Nancy Pelosi's agenda! WOOOOO!!!!

[Aubrey McFate]

Truth be told, I was glad that the Republican candidate in the NY-23 race endorsed the Democrat, and I would like to think that at least a few of the right-wing extremists in the GOP wake the fuck up and realize that all the ideological "purity" in the world doesn't mean jack shit if you can't get elected.

[pjbogart]

I'm sure Republicans will try to pin the NJ and VA losses on Obama but I think it was mostly circumstances and candidates. NJ was about Corzine, plain and simple, and voters were fed up with him. VA, I think, was about voting for the party that isn't in power, that curious independent streak many Americans have to vote for the "down" party in order to keep the "up" party honest.

The NY race is probably the most significant as far as impacting the 2010 congressional elections. It will give Democrats an opportunity to crow about how out of touch Republicans are, but perhaps more importantly it will give moderate Republicans some muscle within the party. If you listen to Rush Limbaugh, you'd think that Republicans are out of power because they aren't conservative enough and NY-23 was their litmus test. They ousted the moderate, replaced her with a conservative and lost a seat that they've held for over 100 years. I'm not sure how much you can tell from one race, but it adds credibility to moderate Republicans complaining about the GOP's small tent.

I'd say that's good for America and probably good for Republicans too.

[rabble]

They ousted the moderate, replaced her with a conservative and lost a seat that they've held for over 100 years. I'm not sure how much you can tell from one race, but it adds credibility to moderate Republicans complaining about the GOP's small tent.

I don't think I'm the only one who finds humor in the fact that Newt Gingrich endorsed the moderate, who then endorsed the Democrat, who then won.

She still got 6 percent of the vote, and the exit polls support the theory that her base did indeed vote Dem if they didn't vote for her anyway. And Gingrich's endorsement had to have given her some cred with the moderates who have become the GOP fringe.

So Gingrich inadvertently helped elect a Dem. I wonder if he's already admitted that to himself.

[TheBookPolice]

Aren't the off-year elections following a presidential election usually a slight bounce-back for the presidential runner-up's party? And how many seats did the Democrats gain in the House?

[Ned Flanders]

The spin monkeys in full force this morning. Let's look at the facts:

Obama spent a lot of time, visits, loaned political hacks etc on both the VA and NJ races. As with the Olympic bid fiasco, Obama's runaway ego told him he could "save" the day at the last minute.

Dems, incumbents get wake-up call

"You can be sure that he is studying them closely now: The off-year elections were, in two big races, an unmistakable rebuke of Democrats, reshuffling Obama’s political circumstances in ways likely to have severe near-term consequences for his policy agenda and larger governing strategy.

Independents took flight from Democrats. They suffered humiliating gubernatorial losses in traditionally Democratic New Jersey, where Obama lent his prestige in a pair of eleventh-hour campaign rallies Sunday, and in Virginia, which had been trending leftward and just last year was held up as an example of how Obama was redrawing the political map in his favor.

Tuesday night’s trends were emphatically not in Obama’s favor. Among those paying closest attention are dozens of Democrats who won formerly Republican congressional districts in 2006 and 2008 and are up for reelection in 2010. Many of these pickups that powered the Democrats’ recapture of Congress came in Southern and border states, or in the Ohio River Valley, where political conditions are similar to those in Virginia."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/200911 ... tico/29116

[fisticuffs]

The spin monkeys in full force this morning. Let's look at the facts:

Yes you certainly are.

Let's look at the facts. in NY a Moderate Republican was challenged by an extreme Right Wing Conservative. From outside the district with zero experience or knowledge of any local issues. The Rock Stars of the insane Right came out in full support of the third party candidate. The Moderate, sane Republican pulled out and threw her support behind the Dem. The Dem one. What does that tell you? The extreme Right wing is effectively pushing out any and all moderate or rational members leaving only the dim witted moran 20%. You guys on the right need to be paying attention to this more than us on the left.

[jjoyce]

Jersey is the armpit of the Union. A machine state run by corrupt, union-controlled worms... unless they're electing a Republican governor. And then, suddenly, that state represents national resentment. Or something.

As a Midwesterner, I prefer to think that states like Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin represent more of a realistic view of the national pulse.

T. Wall will be running against Feingold for Senate.

'nuff said.

[Average Joe]

Exit poll info:

And what about the Obama factor? President Obama campaigned for both the Democratic gubernatorial candidates, even visiting New Jersey as recently as Sunday to stump for Jon Corzine. Still, majorities of voters in both states (56 percent in Virginia and 60 percent in New Jersey) said President Obama was not a factor in their vote today. Those who said Mr. Obama was a factor in New Jersey divided as to whether their vote was a vote for the president (19 percent) or against him (19 percent). In Virginia, slightly fewer voters said their vote was for Mr. Obama (17 percent) than against him (24 percent).

Among Corzine supporters in New Jersey, 38 percent said one reason for their vote was to express support for Mr. Obama, while 39 percent of Christie voters said it was to express opposition to Mr. Obama.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/03 ... 4455.shtml

[Talon Newsman]

Exit poll info:

And what about the Obama factor? President Obama campaigned for both the Democratic gubernatorial candidates, even visiting New Jersey as recently as Sunday to stump for Jon Corzine. Still, majorities of voters in both states (56 percent in Virginia and 60 percent in New Jersey) said President Obama was not a factor in their vote today. Those who said Mr. Obama was a factor in New Jersey divided as to whether their vote was a vote for the president (19 percent) or against him (19 percent). In Virginia, slightly fewer voters said their vote was for Mr. Obama (17 percent) than against him (24 percent).

Among Corzine supporters in New Jersey, 38 percent said one reason for their vote was to express support for Mr. Obama, while 39 percent of Christie voters said it was to express opposition to Mr. Obama.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/03 ... 4455.shtml

Damn it, Joe, the Right's best and brightest pundits are offering you their analysis of the electorate's innermost thoughts and intentions - and you're just going to dismiss that and take the voters' word for it?

What is wrong with you?

[Henry Vilas]

Michael Bloomberg, D-NYC looks like he will serve another term.

He ran as a GOPer, not as a Dem. You probably should have called him a RINO, Mr. Spin Monkey.

[Peacetrain]

The spin monkeys in full force this morning. Let's look at the facts:

Yes you certainly are.

As usual, the spin monkeys on both sides are out in full force.

[fisticuffs]

As usual, the spin monkeys on both sides are out in full force.

Yep and I'm more than willing to admit that fact. Ned however doesn't like facts. Is it such a big surprise that the Dems are focusing on their victory and what it means while at the same time the Republicans are looking at their victories? A truly fair and balanced network like Fox is certainly immune to this type of coverage aren't they?

So back to my partisan spin monkeying. Isn't it interesting that the two Governors who didn't seek the support of former Governor Palin won while the one House candidate who did get that support in a big way ended up splitting the party and losing for the first time in a 150 years? Like I said. Republicans can learn from this race. There are more people in the middle than on the edge. You can't win without them.