[Madsci]

One solution is to change the orbital tilt of planet earth, maybe NASA can look into it.

I agree that DSL is stupid. It may be a factor in depression, along with processed foods.

How about we all boycott the time change?

[rabble]

If we skipped DST and permanently shifted our time zone ahead by an hour, summers would be like they are now, and we’d get to see the sun for a few minutes when we got out of work on winter afternoons -- but we’d be driving to work (and trying to dodge all the kids who were walking to school) before sunrise, in the dark. Who votes for that?

Me. So the sun rises at 7:30 instead of 6:30. Who cares? I've gone to work in the dark and come home in the dark, and I'd much rather go to work in the dark and come home in the sunlight.

If we have to worry about all those drivers running down all those kids just because the sun isn't fully up yet, we have problems that go much further than Daylight Savings Time.

I haven't checked but since there are several locations that opt out of DST, I'm guessing that in some of them that's exactly what happens, and we haven't heard much about all their problems.

[green union terrace chair]

If we skipped DST and permanently shifted our time zone ahead by an hour, summers would be like they are now, and we’d get to see the sun for a few minutes when we got out of work on winter afternoons -- but we’d be driving to work (and trying to dodge all the kids who were walking to school) before sunrise, in the dark. Who votes for that?

Me. So the sun rises at 7:30 instead of 6:30. Who cares? I've gone to work in the dark and come home in the dark, and I'd much rather go to work in the dark and come home in the sunlight.

If we have to worry about all those drivers running down all those kids just because the sun isn't fully up yet, we have problems that go much further than Daylight Savings Time.

I haven't checked but since there are several locations that opt out of DST, I'm guessing that in some of them that's exactly what happens, and we haven't heard much about all their problems.

The only states in the US that don't have DST are Hawaii and Arizona. They're far enough south that it doesn't much matter.

[MeLurkyLongTime]

DST affects my sleep more than most, because my cats have their own special alarm clocks that involve waking me up at a specific time in the wee hours of the morning.

Something has to be done about this naughty cat. How long have you been putting up with this behavior? Try growling at him in the middle of the night when he wakes you up, you may sound and look like a dork but it really does work if you keep at it.

[chance]

If we skipped DST and permanently shifted our time zone ahead by an hour, summers would be like they are now, and we’d get to see the sun for a few minutes when we got out of work on winter afternoons -- but we’d be driving to work (and trying to dodge all the kids who were walking to school) before sunrise, in the dark. Who votes for that?

Me. So the sun rises at 7:30 instead of 6:30. Who cares?...

Where do you live? The way things are now, with daylight saving time in spring through fall and standard time in the winter, Madison's midwinter sun already rises at around 7:30 AM. If we skipped DST and permanently shifted our time zone ahead by an hour, here in Madison the midwinter sun would rise at 8:30 AM.

[Violet_Skye]

DST affects my sleep more than most, because my cats have their own special alarm clocks that involve waking me up at a specific time in the wee hours of the morning.

Something has to be done about this naughty cat. How long have you been putting up with this behavior? Try growling at him in the middle of the night when he wakes you up, you may sound and look like a dork but it really does work if you keep at it.

Cats are creatures of routine and habit. If you get them used to the idea of sleeping in a different room, they will adjust and in time they will bug you to put them in there when it's their bedtime. My cat drove me insane at night until I started doing this. Now we have a much happier relationship. She can go from floor to bed to windowsill a thousand times a night in there and never once wake me up.

[TAsunder]

DST affects my sleep more than most, because my cats have their own special alarm clocks that involve waking me up at a specific time in the wee hours of the morning.

Something has to be done about this naughty cat. How long have you been putting up with this behavior? Try growling at him in the middle of the night when he wakes you up, you may sound and look like a dork but it really does work if you keep at it.

Cats are creatures of routine and habit. If you get them used to the idea of sleeping in a different room, they will adjust and in time they will bug you to put them in there when it's their bedtime. My cat drove me insane at night until I started doing this. Now we have a much happier relationship. She can go from floor to bed to windowsill a thousand times a night in there and never once wake me up.

He already sleeps in another room of his own accord. The issue is when he wakes up and craves human attention and then makes as much noise as physically possible until he gets it. He's a weird cat. He also prefers to sit in the lap of someone he just met rather than anyone with a familiar scent. And he will whine at the vet until the vet pets him even if it's seconds after the vet shoved a gigantic hacksaw up his butt or similar. All signs point to early kittenhood brain damage.

[rabble]

If we skipped DST and permanently shifted our time zone ahead by an hour, summers would be like they are now, and we’d get to see the sun for a few minutes when we got out of work on winter afternoons -- but we’d be driving to work (and trying to dodge all the kids who were walking to school) before sunrise, in the dark. Who votes for that?

Me. So the sun rises at 7:30 instead of 6:30. Who cares?...

Where do you live? The way things are now, with daylight saving time in spring through fall and standard time in the winter, Madison's midwinter sun already rises at around 7:30 AM. If we skipped DST and permanently shifted our time zone ahead by an hour, here in Madison the midwinter sun would rise at 8:30 AM.

You're right, I was an hour off.

I still think it's better than what we have. I'm fine with going to work in the dark.

Of course I now have a job that lets me see the sun anyway so those old sunless windowless brainless and penniless factory jobs are just a memory. It no longer matters to me except that the damn pets still think it's feeding time an hour early in the morning. So I'm going to let you keep things the way they are.

But I don't think it would bother anything at all if we just went to permanent DST. According to Wikipedia, we did exactly that in January 6, 1974, and ending April 27, 1975.

[dave esmond]

The issue is when he wakes up and craves human attention and then makes as much noise as physically possible until he gets it. He's a weird cat.

One of mine would lick my eyelids to wake me up. It could be worse.

[Violet_Skye]

He has you well trained.

[rrnate]

Man, I love Daylight Savings Time.

[butters]

Man, I love Daylight Savings Time.

Now that it's over?

[rrnate]

Man, I love Daylight Savings Time.

Now that it's over?

I love it when it starts and I love it when it stops. I like the whole process. I even enjoy hearing people gripe about it. It's win-win for me.

[Madsci]

We must have saved enough daylight so the days are sunny again.