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Postby Crockett » Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:48 am

"Obama Said to Have Discussed Oil Release With Cameron"

Obama - How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Oil.

Its an election year, I understand. But come on.

We will be in the middle-east forever. Endless wars for oil. Every president does it. Dems or GOP.

Sad day.

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Re: Oil

Postby fisticuffs » Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:36 pm

Every president does it. Dems or GOP.


True. But some at least try to promote efficiency and alternatives while others have demonized it as a socialist plot.
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Re: Oil

Postby Crockett » Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:38 pm

fisticuffs wrote:
Every president does it. Dems or GOP.


True. But some at least try to promote efficiency and alternatives while others have demonized it as a socialist plot.


Actions speak louder than words.
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Re: Oil

Postby fisticuffs » Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:47 pm

Actions speak louder than words.


Democrats have taken actions. Raising fuel efficiency standards. Bush avoided doing this even once. Investing in green energy. Just go to any right wing blog if you want to know about every penny spent on that.

Here's your choice Crock. I understand your disappointment. Who gives you the best chance of energy efficiency and alternative energy. Mitt Romney or Barack Obama?
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Re: Oil

Postby Crockett » Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:50 pm

fisticuffs wrote:
Actions speak louder than words.


Democrats have taken actions. Raising fuel efficiency standards. Bush avoided doing this even once. Investing in green energy. Just go to any right wing blog if you want to know about every penny spent on that.

Here's your choice Crock. I understand your disappointment. Who gives you the best chance of energy efficiency and alternative energy. Mitt Romney or Barack Obama?


I'd rather not have to choose the 'least worst' candidate.

Someone needs to tell Americans the truth. Namely that we fight wars and spend TRILLIONS of their childrens' dollars so Joe Sixpack can drive his SUV from an ex-burb to downtown...cheaply.

I don't care if you commute in a tank. But let gas reflect its TRUE cost to procure. That's the ONLY way we'll see all of Obama's energy efficiency and alternative energy dreams come true. Let the market work. Stop the implicit and explicit subsidies.
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Re: Oil

Postby green union terrace chair » Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:19 pm

Crockett wrote:We will be in the middle-east forever. Endless wars for oil.

Naw. Eventually they'll run out of oil and our only reason to be there will be as an outpost against Chinese military expansion and to facilitate the heroin trade.
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Re: Oil

Postby rabble » Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:27 pm

Crockett wrote:I'd rather not have to choose the 'least worst' candidate.

Me too. When was the last time we didn't have to do that?
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Re: Oil

Postby Detritus » Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:59 pm

rabble wrote:
Crockett wrote:I'd rather not have to choose the 'least worst' candidate.

Me too. When was the last time we didn't have to do that?

1980.
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Re: Oil

Postby rabble » Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:09 pm

I thought it was a little further back than that, and I wouldn't be surprised if some people here might disagree with you [glances in Stella's direction] but the point is, it's a noteworthy occasion when just the possibility exists.

This complaining about "choosing the lesser of two evils" stuff was old before the turn of the century.
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Re: Oil

Postby green union terrace chair » Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:22 pm

Detritus wrote:
rabble wrote:
Crockett wrote:I'd rather not have to choose the 'least worst' candidate.

Me too. When was the last time we didn't have to do that?

1980.

That was a good read. I especially liked the closing quote:
"He's the smartest guy in Congress, but he insists on voting his conscience instead of party." - Gerald Ford

I wish we had more like him.
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Re: Oil

Postby fisticuffs » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:42 pm

I wish we had more like him.


We did. Ron Johnson beat him in 2010.
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