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Save 1022 Mound, irreplacable Stick Style house

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Save 1022 Mound, irreplacable Stick Style house

Postby preserve » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:38 pm

Tonite, we will be asking the City Council to extend the timeline before the an architecturally irreplacable house is demolished, so that we have more time to find someone to move the house, or find some other solution.

Ald Marsha Rummel seems to be most involved in this action, also contact Ald Ledell Zellers.

a demolition permit has already been issued for 1022 Mound ST, I believe the city council will either give final approval of the permit or hopefully extend the timeline.

The house is currently owned by Meriter Hospital.

The developer of the proposed apartment bldg is the Gallina Co.

The Gallina Co is offering $5,000.00 to anyone who will move the house to a different location.

We also are possibly looking for funding to help enable a move.

Previously, 1022 Mound St, Madison was featured in the following Wisconsin Historical Society publication;

Design in Wisconsin housing : a guide to styles
D.J. Stith, R.P. Meyer, Jeff M. Dean. (Jeff Dean was the first Preservation officer at the Wi State Historical Society)1974, and 1977

http://www.brefcobuilders.com/index_htm ... styles.pdf

On page 9 there is a great illustration of the house with the following caption;

'STICK STYLE: 1895-1902, Michael and Katherine O'Connell house, 1022 Mound St., Madison, WI.

"...Although somewhat later than the period of 1870-1890 designated as Stick Style in Wisconsin, it is felt that this is one of the best examples (of Stick Style) present in Madison," Jeff Dean, (former) Wi State Historical Society preservation officer

Please share any ideas you might have in order to rescue this beautiful building.

Let's get 'MOVING' on finding a solution to this predicament!!!!

The clock is ticking..........


Here's the link to the WSJ article that appeared 3 weeks ago;
http://host.madison.com/news/local/loca ... e9b7f.html

Also refer to the article in the Madison Trust for Historic Preservation newsletter.

Contact your alderperson to support this.
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Re: Save 1022 Mound, irreplacable Stick Style house

Postby kurt_w » Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:41 pm

Hey, I remember that house. I used to live near there at one point, and walked by there to and from UW every day for years. It's a pretty nice house:

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They don't make them like that any more, alas.
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Re: Save 1022 Mound, irreplacable Stick Style house

Postby snoqueen » Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:49 pm

One of the difficulties of saving these large older houses is finding it a suitable vacant lot, one where it'll look in scale with its neighbors. Those are hard to find and, often, not cheap. Hope they can pull it off with this one.
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Re: Save 1022 Mound, irreplacable Stick Style house

Postby kurt_w » Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:01 pm

It'd look nice here, but I don't think it'd be cost effective to move it half way across the country...
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Re: Save 1022 Mound, irreplacable Stick Style house

Postby gozer » Tue Oct 29, 2013 5:36 am

i know of the house because i would often walk by it to visit people who lived at various places in the neighbourhood; what is the origin of the name stick style?
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Re: Save 1022 Mound, irreplacable Stick Style house

Postby gozer » Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:50 am

how frequent is it in madison or in general to move a house all in one piece (or in a comparatively small number of pieces) and is there enough volume for there to be firms that specialise in it?

the most recent time i saw a house being moved was the autumn of 2002 when they were moving a large house in the same general area -- it may have been fred risser's house, or he had some connexion to it. it was very interesting, and i wondered what it would have been like to be in the house sitting at the kitchen table as it was being moved.

some time ago i watched a procession go down the highway moving an extraordinarily giant generator the size of a large house. that had a more surreal appeal to it. the parade picked up some extra vehicles, because of the inability to pass, including a horse trailer, a couple of tractors, a federal express van, cement mixer, and a beer delivery lorry by the end. i think the mayor or town chairperson of the points of origin and destination should have ridden along in convertibles. and have a float that is a cake that says "eat me" and a marching band playing relevant tunes like "fight the power" and "wind me up"

another method i have heard of is literally taking it apart brick by brick and numbering them and assembling them elsewhere -- apparently this is what happened with the garage that was the location of the st valentine's day massacre, although i am not sure where it was re-assembled, and i think it has been moved more than once.*

it is something that always warms the cockles of my heart to hear about because not everyone is going to have the inclination not to just to want to knock down shit. in fact there are some folks who seems to have a hard-on for knocking down things just because they can do it. i notice a lot of this when it comes to various kinds of buildings around here, whether it be radical remodelling or outright destruction. maybe it is people marking their territory. for one example, i do not believe that the changes to the meadowood shopping centre, which was once upon a time anchored at one end by a neighbourhood grocery store, are an improvement. the changes of the site that contains another branch library, sequoya in this case, literally almost made me faint when i first saw them. i had been out of the country when the whole thing went down, so i came expecting the circa 1990 configuration of the whole complex and see essentially what is there today.

one of our neighbours a couple of blocks over completely gutted and "modernised" a house of the wooden hand-done 60-year-old interior which was in very good condition just to do it, apparently, and our rather choleric friend§ who lives next door to the house shared in the consensus on the block about the atrocities being done to the outside of the house and the yard as well and half-seriously asked if he should have gone over and told the then-owner that if he went ahead with the plan to cover it in tacky cheap siding for much the same reason that he was going to burn down the house. i told him that it would sort of defeat the purpose. other members of the family of the then-owner/seller of the house who had grown up in the house were apoplectic† when they heard what had happened. new is not always better. especially when it comes to houses.

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* the bricks of the wall where the shooting took place apparently brought ghosts along with them.

§ he was the one who actually used this tactic to get someone else in the neighbourhood to remove steel jaw traps from his yard as recounted here some time ago. he actually looks just like the neighbour in drugstore cowboy who goes after the undercover cop with the ladder. he also promised to "rip off his head and piss down his throat." he came out just as i was going in with twelve other folks from the area to attempt a more conventional and friendly way of attaining the same objective, including a couple who had been active in the original anti-steel-trap organisation in the 1920s, and a lady who was a fellow raccoon fan who lived a block or so from sterling north growing up, although starting a while after he had his pet rascal, about whom the book of the same name was written.

† more than a few people theorised when we heard about this that the remodeller would likely be rewarded for such impudent modification of the house by at least a burst of poltergeist activity or the house making people feel like shit when they were inside it, and probably having the builders of the house, the grandparents of the remodeller, put in some unhappy appearances from beyond the grave from time to time. one of the other family members recently confirmed that this had happened. so watch out.
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Re: Save 1022 Mound, irreplacable Stick Style house

Postby rabble » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:29 am

gozer wrote:how frequent is it in madison or in general to move a house all in one piece (or in a comparatively small number of pieces) and is there enough volume for there to be firms that specialise in it?

To the best of my knowledge there are three or four house moving firms within a hundred miles of here. One of them moved the UW Crew boat house to its present location and shored it up. Actually one was in charge and contracted out to two others for parts of the project.

One of my longtime friends just retired from the business, although for the last several years he'd been doing nothing but lifting houses up for foundation work because it was WAY less headaches and time, and therefore paid much better.

Floods and grandfather clauses created a glut of customers ready to pay big bucks to have the house lifted high enough to fix and/or raise the foundation, then lower the house back down without moving it, thereby keeping to the laws that say this house can stay on this lake shore if it never moves one inch from its present location. There's more of those out there than I would have thought.

The only thing he stayed away from is brick. A brick house is completely unforgiving and will crack and fall apart if one corner is raised a half inch higher than its opposite, where a wooden house has some give and take that gives you a little more wiggle room.
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Re: Save 1022 Mound, irreplacable Stick Style house

Postby snoqueen » Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:13 am

-- Stick style refers to the visible "sticks" that decorate the gable of the house in the picture. It was a whole architectural style, though, not just that particular ornamentation. Look up Eastlake for more examples.

-- House moving is not new at all. I could show you houses in Madison that were moved more than a century ago on the east side. Sometimes two smaller houses were moved side by side to make one bigger house. Check out the north side of the 1300 block of Williamson.

The big clue is when a house's basement is considerably younger than the house.
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Re: Save 1022 Mound, irreplacable Stick Style house

Postby Detritus » Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:50 am

Quite famously, one of the inns in Fish Creek (Door County) was moved all the way from Marinette across the frozen Green Bay in the early 20th century:
Welcker surrounded his inn with cottages, and purchased more land around the village, including dock space, a farm to produce food for the inn and property which would later become Welcker's Point in Peninsula State Park. His most unusual project was moving the Lumberman's Hotel from Marinette, Wisconsin, to Fish Creek, in 1907. The hotel (now known as the Whistling Swan) must have been dismantled before being moved the approximately eighteen miles across the frozen waters of Green Bay.

More here, scroll down for this particularly piece.
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