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A cyclone half the size of India.

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A cyclone half the size of India.

Postby rabble » Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:36 pm

is about to hit India.
Jeez. That's a big cyclone.
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Re: A cyclone half the size of India.

Postby Igor » Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:08 pm

Unfortunately, it sounds like it is a pretty strong one too.
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Re: A cyclone half the size of India.

Postby green union terrace chair » Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:55 am

This is a weird passage:
A giant cyclone is about to plow into India. It's the size and strength of a Category five hurricane.

A cyclone is a hurricane, but one in the Indian Ocean. If it occurs in the East Pacific it's a typhoon. But they're all "hurricanes."
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Re: A cyclone half the size of India.

Postby Sandi » Sat Oct 12, 2013 2:12 am

National Geographic

If you've never lived in Asia, you might be wondering what it feels like to experience a typhoon. But if you've ever survived a hurricane or cyclone, you already know the answer.

That's because hurricanes, cyclones, and typhoons are all the same weather phenomenon. Scientists just call these storms different things depending on where they occur.
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Re: A cyclone half the size of India.

Postby rabble » Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:36 pm

Wow. The last major storm hit that coast 14 years ago and killed 10,000. This one killed 21. Because a local official sat in his office working the phones and getting everybody evacuated.

"We were telling people: 'Look, you have to choose between death and life'," said Taradatt, who heads the Revenue and Disaster Management Department in the poverty-plagued eastern state of Odisha.

"Those who were not willing (to be evacuated), I was telling the local official to use force, because the rules permit that."

One guy in the capital who sees what needs to be done, volunteers to lead it himself instead of handing it off to a committee, then gives his crew the authority to handle decisions themselves, who then gave their crews that authority.

And they got a million people into storm shelters inside of 36 hours. And most of those people didn't want to go because the weather was beautiful and they didn't believe it.

It's good that they built storm shelters after the last storm, created disaster centers, and there's way more cell phones out there than there were 14 years ago. But without one guy picking up the reins there would still have been many more dead.
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Re: A cyclone half the size of India.

Postby Ducatista » Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:34 pm

green union terrace chair wrote:This is a weird passage:
A giant cyclone is about to plow into India. It's the size and strength of a Category five hurricane.

A cyclone is a hurricane, but one in the Indian Ocean. If it occurs in the East Pacific it's a typhoon. But they're all "hurricanes."

Not so weird. People here can picture a Category 5 hurricane (like Katrina). The cyclone's actual rating, Super Cyclonic Storm, isn't as meaningful to a US audience.
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Re: A cyclone half the size of India.

Postby green union terrace chair » Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:52 pm

Ducatista wrote:
green union terrace chair wrote:This is a weird passage:
A giant cyclone is about to plow into India. It's the size and strength of a Category five hurricane.

A cyclone is a hurricane, but one in the Indian Ocean. If it occurs in the East Pacific it's a typhoon. But they're all "hurricanes."

Not so weird. People here can picture a Category 5 hurricane (like Katrina). The cyclone's actual rating, Super Cyclonic Storm, isn't as meaningful to a US audience.

I'm not sure if we're essentially saying the same thing here or not.

Hurricane = Cyclone = Typhoon. Identical type of storm. Different naming convention based on longitude and custom.

So a typhoon that is "the size and strength of a Category 5 hurricane" IS a Category 5 hurricane.
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Re: A cyclone half the size of India.

Postby Ducatista » Mon Oct 14, 2013 4:49 pm

You're just providing less information.

The storm in question is called something other than a hurricane where it's happening, and the local rating scale is different from our Saffir-Simpson scale (in naming and breakdown). If you call the storm a Category 5 hurricane, you omit that information.

It's like saying the typical speed limit on a Dutch motorway is 81 mph. True... but that statement omits the information that the Dutch measure speed in km/h and the typical motorway limit is 130 km/h.
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