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Well, let's see... there's Halloween, the ongoing building boom downtown, some violent crime, talk of streetcars....
by Ned Flanders » Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:26 am
I don't see myself "tolerating" honor killings, suicide attacks and fraggings anytime soon. That's 3rd world shit that has no place here.
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by rabble » Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:41 am
Ned Flanders wrote:I don't see myself "tolerating" honor killings, suicide attacks and fraggings anytime soon. That's 3rd world shit that has no place here.
That's great Ned. So, who told to you tolerate those things? Let's go get 'em.
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by TheBookPolice » Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:44 am
Good, then we all basically agree and this thread can stop now.
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by feh23 » Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:12 pm
Ned Flanders wrote:How much longer is this nation going to put with this? With the government-media misdirection?
Ft. Hood suspect reportedly shouted `Allahu Akbar'
REPORTEDLY, dumbass. They also initially reported fewer people were killed, there were other people involved, and the shooter was dead...does the simple fact that these things were reported make them true? No it does not. Are all the facts out? No they are not. So take your stupid ass fingers off your damned monkey board and stfu until you know the actual facts of what actually happened. Or...be honest for once in your damned life, put on your white hood and say that you hate the people you hate because they're too brown, too Muslim, too ethnic or simply were born/raised too different for your tastes. I mean, seriously, what are you afraid of? Someone saying "Oh, wow, I don't like what you're saying?" Because it's not like the PC, crunchy granola, free to be you and me, liberals you seem to hate just as much are going to shoot you in the face for your idiotic beliefs.
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by DCB » Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:38 pm
Ned Flanders wrote: There are no easy answers. This nation has been so backed into a corner by political correctness and the worship of "diversity", that it's impossible to have an honest discussion about a variety of issues.
I'm just not seeing how honor killings, terroist attacks and murder one's fellow soldiers, all in the name of "Freedom", can fit into this socitey.
Figures a reactionary would use this horrific incident to stereotype a whole group. It goes without saying most of troops are not angry, confused killers. You own an apology to our nation's military.
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by Uncle Fester » Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:43 pm
feh23 wrote:be honest for once in your damned life, put on your white hood and say that you hate the people you hate because they're too brown, too Muslim, too ethnic or simply were born/raised too different for your tastes.
You can cram that weakass Liberal bullshite. Defend this hateful death cult all you want, but I find it too violent, too intolerant, and too backward for my tastes. http://www.askimam.org/
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by rabble » Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:58 pm
Uncle Fester wrote:Defend this hateful death cult all you want, but I find it too violent, too intolerant, and too backward for my tastes.
Some Muslims are fanatics, therefore all muslims are fanatics. Some Christians are fanatics. Oh well.
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by Uncle_Leaver » Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:12 pm
Uncle Fester wrote:You can cram that weakass Liberal bullshite.
Christ, you're such a pussy, you can't even swear like a man. No wonder you live your life in fear of everyone different than you. Defend this hateful death cult all you want, but I find it too violent, too intolerant, and too backward for my tastes.
Nobody here is "defending" suicidal jihadists, moron. And some of us find you too intolerant and backward for our tastes. rabble wrote:Some Muslims are fanatics, therefore all muslims are fanatics.
Some Christians are fanatics. Oh well.
It's amazing isn't it? If hypocrisy were a treasonous offense, we could toss these assholes Flanders and Fester in Gitmo and throw away the key. And the world would spin on a better place. Nobody with a full deck would ever miss a pair of jokers anyway, right?
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by ilikebeans » Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:37 am
Just a little reminder: According to various estimates, there are between 1.1 and 7 million Muslims in the United States. Insinuating that somehow a majority of these people are prone to violence is not only laughably intellectually dishonest, it's the type of talk that provokes discrimination and attacks against peaceful Muslims and mosques in our communities.
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by Uncle Fester » Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:29 am
When support for Bin Laden and suicide bombings hovers around 50 percent in the Muslim world, as it has in the last decade, than we're not talking about an isolated, fringe group of "extremists." About a third participate in the mayhem; the rest provide tacit support with their silence.
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by rabble » Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:46 am
Uncle Fester wrote:When support for Bin Laden and suicide bombings hovers around 50 percent in the Muslim world, as it has in the last decade, than we're not talking about an isolated, fringe group of "extremists." About a third participate in the mayhem; the rest provide tacit support with their silence.
Ah. Now we see. It's a matter of degree. If enough members of a certain spiritual path subscribe to extremism, then all of its members should be... Hm. Exactly what what should we do with all of its members, after we've determined that a certain spiritual path is a "hateful death cult?" Genocide? A holy war that envelops the planet? In other words, do exactly what Osama wants?
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by Uncle Fester » Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:33 am
Hm. Exactly what what should we do with all of its members, after we've determined that a certain spiritual path is a "hateful death cult?" Genocide? A holy war that envelops the planet? In other words, do exactly what Osama wants?
How about after the next Islamic atrocity (check your watch), you follow up with an honest, human, and humane reaction? Anger and outrage are appropriate, by the way. In the bloody aftermath, the first reaction by too many liberals is to provide context, equivilencies, and deflections. Why? Is strapping a suicide bomb on retarded person ever justified for any cause? According to polls I've seen, about 60 percent of Muslim Palestinians have no problem with it. In the U.S. if some rinky-dink town sets up a Nativity scene in the courtyard square, the Annie Gaylor types are all over it. So where are they when Muslims want "prayer rooms" at airports and public libraries? I'm not advocating vigilantism, racism, or angry mobs. But a little outrage would be nice. And pulling back on all the sanctimonious liberal simpering and capitulation would be even better. "It is a certain fact that not all Muslims are terrorists, but it is equally certain, and exceptionally painful, that almost all terrorists are Muslims." -Abdel Rahman al-Rashed, Al-Arabiya Television
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by rabble » Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:01 pm
Uncle Fester wrote:Hm. Exactly what what should we do with all of its members, after we've determined that a certain spiritual path is a "hateful death cult?" Genocide? A holy war that envelops the planet? In other words, do exactly what Osama wants?
How about after the next Islamic atrocity (check your watch), you follow up with an honest, human, and humane reaction? Anger and outrage are appropriate, by the way.
Don't you mean "mandated?" As in, "if you don't react the way we want you to, you're a traitor and a terrorist and a wimp and a surrender monkey?" Good work on avoiding the genocide question. The proper, authorized reaction is anger and outrage, no matter whether the incident is someone going postal, or an organized terrorist attack. We have to hate a group of people for it, and we'll just avoid talking about exactly what we ought to do until the angry outraged mobs are in out in force.
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by cmb53208 » Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:55 pm
OK, let's suppose a few things about this Army shrink that shot and killed 12 people: first, let's say that his CO acted on all the red flages that were popping up and gave him an administrative discharge: who's to say he wouldn't have shot up the joint because he was hacked off about getting canned? perhaps this tragedy could not have been prevented?
Secondly, when it comes to religion, this is what I have observed as a sceptical agnostic: religion in the hands of good people, is well a force for good. I can hardly ignore selfless charitable acts by religious people. Nor can I ignore priests, rabbis, imams, and pastors who ruisked jail or death to stand up to tyranny. On the other hand, I ve seen religion be used by evil people to further their agenda, whether that be OBL or James Dobson.
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by Uncle Fester » Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:21 pm
cmb53208 wrote:On the other hand, I ve seen religion be used by evil people to further their agenda, whether that be OBL or James Dobson. 
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