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Why has MPD NOT cracked down on internet prostitution?

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Re: Why has MPD NOT cracked down on internet prostitution?

Postby Henry Vilas » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:54 pm

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Re: Why has MPD NOT cracked down on internet prostitution?

Postby Remember_Me » Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:05 pm

vesvehighfolk wrote:Victimless crime? The victim is often the prostitute.


Victim of what?
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Re: Why has MPD NOT cracked down on internet prostitution?

Postby jjoyce » Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:32 pm

Remember_Me wrote:Victim of what?


Human trafficking, for one.

There's also the families of the guys who partake. Remember an article in the WSJ a couple years ago about a woman whose husband was part of a sting at Rising Sun? She claimed he had spent thousands on prostitutes over the years while his kids went without tuition money. The guy was often not at home when he needed to be, causing all sorts of family problems.
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Re: Why has MPD NOT cracked down on internet prostitution?

Postby fisticuffs » Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:44 pm

She claimed he had spent thousands on prostitutes over the years while his kids went without tuition money.


Not a problem unique to prostitution. He could have been stockpiling weapons or guitars.

The guy was often not at home when he needed to be, causing all sorts of family problems.


Again. Nothing unique about this problem. Of course there's a down side I think the question is it worth the police attention when there are plenty of other things for them to do. I don't think there is.
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Re: Why has MPD NOT cracked down on internet prostitution?

Postby Remember_Me » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:24 pm

jjoyce wrote:Human trafficking, for one.


Human trafficking is a crime in and of itself. So the person would be a victim of that. Many people are victims of human trafficking and sold into slave labor.

jjoyce wrote:There's also the families of the guys who partake. Remember an article in the WSJ a couple years ago about a woman whose husband was part of a sting at Rising Sun? She claimed he had spent thousands on prostitutes over the years while his kids went without tuition money. The guy was often not at home when he needed to be, causing all sorts of family problems.


This woman and her children are victims of their dead-beat dad/husband. Not prostitution.

Or, since we don't know the circumstances, perhaps the children are also victims of their mother since she chose the gem. Or, since we don't know the circumstances, perhaps the husband is also a victim because his wife refused him sex and/or companionship and he sought it elsewhere. But stayed with her FOR the children.

Whatever their circumstances, prostitution didn't cause it.

Prostitution is a victimless "crime".

The fact that it's a crime is why these other actual crimes associated with prostitution happen.
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Re: Why has MPD NOT cracked down on internet prostitution?

Postby snoqueen » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:41 pm

I think prostitution should be legalized and regulated, but one good reason to do that is the well-being of the women who are prostitutes. In some cases they are addicts and are under the control of a pimp who insists they work and give him the money in return for a supply of drugs. In that dynamic, among others, the prostitutes are being victimized.

Now, being an addict isn't exactly a good idea, but if we altered the situation so that prostitution was regulated and decriminalized, put in a less hidden environment, and the health of the prostitutes monitored, both the prostitutes and the men who visit them would be safer.
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Re: Why has MPD NOT cracked down on internet prostitution?

Postby Sandi » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:48 pm

Remember_Me wrote:This woman and her children are victims of their dead-beat dad/husband. Not prostitution.


Exactly.
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Re: Why has MPD NOT cracked down on internet prostitution?

Postby Remember_Me » Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:13 pm

snoqueen wrote:In that dynamic, among others, the prostitutes are being victimized.


Exactly.

Victimized by addiction and manipulation.

Not prostitution.
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Re: Why has MPD NOT cracked down on internet prostitution?

Postby rabble » Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:43 pm

jjoyce wrote:
Remember_Me wrote:Victim of what?


Human trafficking, for one.

There's also the families of the guys who partake. Remember an article in the WSJ a couple years ago about a woman whose husband was part of a sting at Rising Sun? She claimed he had spent thousands on prostitutes over the years while his kids went without tuition money. The guy was often not at home when he needed to be, causing all sorts of family problems.

Okay, maybe I don't understand what "internet prostitution" is. I thought it was a hooker doing her own advertising and setting up her own clients. Is that not what it is? Are there human traffickers around here selling sex slaves on the internet?
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Re: Why has MPD NOT cracked down on internet prostitution?

Postby vesvehighfolk » Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:37 pm

some proof of my statement on this not being a victimless crime

http://crime.about.com/od/prostitution/ ... tution.htm
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Re: Why has MPD NOT cracked down on internet prostitution?

Postby vesvehighfolk » Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:40 pm

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Re: Why has MPD NOT cracked down on internet prostitution?

Postby rabble » Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:13 am

I'm not understanding the topic. I thought we WERE cracking down on prostitution except for the internet kind.

How come we're talking about prostitution in general?

Why is it so bad that we're leaving those evil internet prostitutes alone?
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Re: Why has MPD NOT cracked down on internet prostitution?

Postby wack wack » Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:46 am

vesvehighfolk wrote:some proof of my statement on this not being a victimless crime

http://crime.about.com/od/prostitution/ ... tution.htm


This is largely an opinion piece, and the facts that are cited seem to support the belief that the problem with prostitution is its prohibition.
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Re: Why has MPD NOT cracked down on internet prostitution?

Postby rabble » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:07 pm

So who's going to change the thread title to "prostitution shouldn't be illegal because it's victimless unless you think there are victims, but as long as it is, we also need to stop the internet kind."

Hm?
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Re: Why has MPD NOT cracked down on internet prostitution?

Postby Stebben84 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:30 pm

vesvehighfolk wrote:why it is illegal!

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... legal.html


I'm not sure if you actually read the piece because it makes several points about why prostitution SHOULD be legal. Thanks, it was a pretty good read.
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