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Saturday's gun rally at the Capitol

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Re: Saturday's gun rally at the Capitol

Postby pjbogart » Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:29 pm

Hey, can someone go pick up Chad Kollman in Waupun? The price of gas is through the roof and driving 40 miles to Madison will require a lot of sacrifices on his part.
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Re: Saturday's gun rally at the Capitol

Postby rabble » Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:38 pm

I'll drive him for a box of 2.75 12 gauge double ought. One box each way.

They've gotta be new, though. No reloads.

Wait. WAUPUN? I thought you said Waunakee. TWO boxes each way.
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Re: Saturday's gun rally at the Capitol

Postby fisticuffs » Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:43 pm

And to think had this guy voted differently he could just take the train.
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Re: Saturday's gun rally at the Capitol

Postby jjoyce » Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:07 pm

Wait, Waupun?
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Re: Saturday's gun rally at the Capitol

Postby lukpac » Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:47 pm

Heh:

Sure sounds like good wholesome Al-Qaeda-style fun, boys!

Of course, if some self-appointed hero-wannabe Champions Of Freedom unliaterally opt to maliciously ruin public infrastructure over laughably watered-down gun regs, it’s OBAMA who played with fire: airtight logic, that.

A pity that “Wolverines” is already taken, but maybe you can revive “Werewolves” since the originals didn’t amount to much?
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Re: Saturday's gun rally at the Capitol

Postby Ninja » Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:47 pm

Mean Scenester wrote:I don't expect you to understand it, but the quickie translation is that you're dead fucking wrong.


Then so is every single constitutional law professor and scholar in the country. Weird. But you do have emphasis. Can't argue with emphasis.
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Re: Saturday's gun rally at the Capitol

Postby rabble » Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:49 pm

Ninja wrote:
Mean Scenester wrote:I don't expect you to understand it, but the quickie translation is that you're dead fucking wrong.


Then so is every single constitutional law professor and scholar in the country. Weird. But you do have emphasis. Can't argue with emphasis.

Coupla links on that there, mister ninja sir? If you please. I'm mighty curious to see how the logic works on that.
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Re: Saturday's gun rally at the Capitol

Postby Ninja » Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:16 pm

rabble wrote:Coupla links on that there, mister ninja sir? If you please. I'm mighty curious to see how the logic works on that.


Sure, no problem.

http://www.amazon.com/Social-Studies-Co ... 20534741X/

http://www.amazon.com/Teaching-Elementa ... 117514390/
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Re: Saturday's gun rally at the Capitol

Postby Stebben84 » Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:29 pm

Now I'm confused. Read this again:

Ninja wrote:
TheBookPolice wrote:No, you're definitely missing something. The 2nd Amendment -- like all amendments -- is 100% about the government telling people what they can and can't do.


That's the opposite of reality and no one who knows anything about the US Constitution would argue otherwise.


In other words, "no one would argue otherwise" in essence agreeing with BP. Am I missing something here?
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Re: Saturday's gun rally at the Capitol

Postby TheBookPolice » Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:31 pm

Ninja wrote:http://www.amazon.com/Teaching-Elementary-Schools-Civics-Citizenship/dp/1117514390/

From the link:
This is a pre-1923 historical reproduction


Timely! Dames had just gotten the right to vote when that classic was first published.
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Re: Saturday's gun rally at the Capitol

Postby minicat » Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:56 pm

:x
fisticuffs wrote:
By the way, anybody want to set an over/under number for attendance?


150. Most of them spend their weekends cleaning their guns.


Only if they aren't too busy "cleaning their gun" ... winkwinknudgenudgeknowutimean??
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Re: Saturday's gun rally at the Capitol

Postby Francis Di Domizio » Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:18 pm

TheBookPolice wrote:
Ninja wrote:http://www.amazon.com/Teaching-Elementary-Schools-Civics-Citizenship/dp/1117514390/

From the link:
This is a pre-1923 historical reproduction


Timely! Dames had just gotten the right to vote when that classic was first published.


Cause there's been a lot of changes in the bill of rights since 1923 :D
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Re: Saturday's gun rally at the Capitol

Postby rabble » Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:33 pm

Could anyone who's read those books please tell me what the ninja's talking about?

I always thought the constitution and the bill of rights was all about defining what the government could and could not do to its citizens, not that it was all about letting them do whatever the hell they wanted to.

I'm fine with either theory, I just wish ninja had a better argument than "read these books."
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Re: Saturday's gun rally at the Capitol

Postby Henry Vilas » Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:35 pm

Of course the text has not changed, but evolving standards have. The Supreme Court, as ultimate arbiter of the Constitution, has made many rulings on the Bill of Rights over the years.
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Re: Saturday's gun rally at the Capitol

Postby Galoot » Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:41 pm

The Supreme Court once ruled that blacks are not people. In the late 1800's, they had a ruling that said that the U.S. is a Christian nation. Yes, I know, an amendment changed the first issue, but the 2nd one? Ridiculous, and one that no modern U.S. court would use as precedence.

Legal interpretations of the Constitution have most certainly evolved since 1923, mostly for the better, some, such as the Citizens United ruling, very much for the worse.
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